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Post by obliterator2 on Feb 12, 2015 15:50:39 GMT
Occasionally, I'll have to delete and recreate powered wheels due to them stopping working (I think they get stuck on nothing). It mostly happened on a massive vehicle, but it's possibly happened on a smaller one too  |
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Post by SuburbanSB on Feb 13, 2015 7:31:53 GMT
Occasionally, I'll have to delete and recreate powered wheels due to them stopping working (I think they get stuck on nothing). It mostly happened on a massive vehicle, but it's possibly happened on a smaller one too Thats a little odd, do you have any recreation steps? Or is the bug random? In physics it wouldn't surprise me if a wheel breaks/stops working with a massive machine on it... How ever if weight isn't the issue, then possible recreation steps could help narrow down this bug. |
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Post by obliterator2 on Feb 13, 2015 15:25:01 GMT
There's nothing I've seen so far that reproduces it, it's just random (I've not tried building another huge vehicle yet anyway) My big vehicle was an attempt at car like suspension with hydraulics, so there is a huge amount of weight on those wheels and it might be that causing it to bug a little. When I say possibly happened on a smaller vehicle, I can't remember for sure, but if it did, it was only once  |
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Post by NubViking on Feb 13, 2015 21:02:34 GMT
If this only happens with a specific build. Maybe, if you would upload the .bsg some other besiegers might have a look at it and could possibly determine if it really is a bug or just a design flaw. |
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Post by SuburbanSB on Feb 14, 2015 2:16:05 GMT
If this only happens with a specific build. Maybe, if you would upload the .bsg some other besiegers might have a look at it and could possibly determine if it really is a bug or just a design flaw. Very helpful idea! Would defiantly help to see if the design is the issue, or something bigger is at play! |
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Post by obliterator2 on Feb 14, 2015 14:52:29 GMT
To be fair, I've just been trying to replicate it now and couldn't I'm guessing it could have possibly been by chance, as in it could potentially fall on the wheel and break it multiple times in a row, then as soon as I replaced it, it just so happened not to break. Happened around 3 or 4 times so it was maybe just bad luck If anyone still wants a look, i copied the bsg file to here - pastebin.com/WCqnr9jb. It's a bad design anyway, like I said before I was just trying out suspension with hydraulics |
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Post by SuburbanSB on Feb 14, 2015 21:22:38 GMT
To be fair, I've just been trying to replicate it now and couldn't I'm guessing it could have possibly been by chance, as in it could potentially fall on the wheel and break it multiple times in a row, then as soon as I replaced it, it just so happened not to break. Happened around 3 or 4 times so it was maybe just bad luck If anyone still wants a look, i copied the bsg file to here - pastebin.com/WCqnr9jb. It's a bad design anyway, like I said before I was just trying out suspension with hydraulics Hmmm intriguing that it is not a consistent issue... You say it was 'falling' on the wheel, what did you mean by this? There could just be something funky going on when forces such as suspension/springs are brought on, as they are absorbing the shock, yet they continuously force the wheel outward... Okay... so I loaded it up, and was giving it a test, when I noticed that it is a very heavy design, with only 2 (well 4... 2 on one hinge) powered wheels... it was a very slow machine, but didn't seem to have any issues... then I did come across some of the wheels seemed to be seizing up as such... I looked underneath it and noticed a chunk of wood had broken of, and was blocking the machine! xD I'll do some more tests, and I'll get back to you after a 4th test, I restarted the machine, and I moved forward, I noticed that the machine was turning to the left, without my controls, so I peaked underneath again, and saw that one of the two back right wheels were not moving, and it didn't seem to want to be. Now, if it was a weight issue, it would be consistent through out (although this game can be quite inconsistent sometimes, wand only the right conditions are required for this to happen), however this just happened to occur randomly.. I still feel as though it is an issue with the weight... Because you have a lot of braces, all weighing .5 and the majority of the weight is sitting on the 2 sets of powered wheels. |
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Post by obliterator2 on Feb 15, 2015 14:30:34 GMT
Yeah, the back is very heavy but I couldn't help that haha, having suspension and pistons linked to the wheels required a huge frame to support them ;P Braces are due to the wood being too fragile (would sometimes break when you hit h to lift the back end of the car), so yeah, I imagine it's probably due to the weight, there seems to be a bit of a tradeoff between structural integrity and reliable wheels Being totally honest, I didn't realise braces actually weighed anything, I thought you could just put as many as you wanted. How much does wood weigh in comparison btw? |
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Post by SuburbanSB on Feb 16, 2015 0:22:45 GMT
Ahaha yeah, there are a lot of very cool suspension designs which result in a lighter machine. Because I personally just feel the issue here is the weight, unless someone is able to give a bit more insight. xD The single wood block weighs 0.3 and the double, weights 0.5 So in that theory, If you use wood, use the double blocks whenever possible. You can check this thread, for every weight of every block |
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